城市天际线中的大都市（城市天际线1夜幕下的上海）

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Shanghai, China

中国上海

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vic1000

I went there in the 80s and that entire skyscraper district was a field of mud. My Chinese friend pointed at it and said it would look like Manhattan one day.

我80年代去过那里，如今是摩天大楼的那片区域曾是一片烂泥。我的中国朋友指着它说，那里总有一天会像曼哈顿一样。

VanCoeur

Could be a complete lie, but true or false haben an upvote for the imagery

这可能完全是个谎言，但是不管真假，还是要为这张照片点赞。

AndyTexas

"If you think NYC is big, you've never been to Shanghai."

“如果你觉得纽约很大，那是因为你没去过上海。”

Gallig3r

While I agree with your sentiment, this is an interesting statistic that explains why New York "feels" much larger than some other megalopolises that are objectively larger than it.

虽然我同意你的看法，但是这里有一个有趣的统计，说明了为什么纽约“感觉”上比那些打过它的大城市更大。

（注：维基百科摩天大楼数排名）

Cuttlefish88

It indeed feels larger because of the skyscrapers; not sure what the quotation marks imply.

它感觉更大确实是因为摩天大楼数，不知道你打个引号是想暗示什么。

PoetKing

NYC: 8 million people

Shanghai: 26 million people

纽约：800万人

上海：2600万人

jymhtysy

Shanghai has enormous city limits.

It still has a larger metro area (NYC: 20 million vs Shanghai: 34 million) but the magnitude of separation isn't that big.

上海有很大的城市限制。

但它仍有很大的都会区（纽约：2000万VS上海：3400万），但分散的幅度没有那么大。

cao-ni-ma

Well, the majority of the NYC 20 million live in detached suburban houses far away from Manhattan. The majority of Shanghai's metro population live in highrises. So while 'only' 50% larger, it is also far more urban and dense.

好吧，纽约的2000万人绝大多数生活在远离曼哈顿的郊区独立的房子里。上海都会区人口大部分居住在高层。所以虽然“只”大了50%，上海还是更城市化和密集。

dreed18

NYC metro is closer to 24 million now

纽约都会区现在有2400万人了。

IIHotelYorba

Sure, New York may be more famous. But does it have a building that looks like a weird ancient Arabic dildo? Or a slice of cake, next to a building that looks like city hall in Los Angeles, next to an empty toilet paper roll, next to a chewed drinking straw, next to an old electric shaver from the 90's?

I think not. New York has a few ugly pieces of shit for buildings but it can't compete with the entire skyline of Shanghai.

当然，纽约可能更有名。但它有一个看起来想阿拉伯人的丁丁的建筑物吗？或者紧挨着看起来像一块蛋糕的像洛杉矶市政大厅的建筑物？旁边的空厕纸盒？旁边咬着的吸管？旁边90年代的老电动剃须刀？

我认为没有。纽约有一些丑陋的狗屎建筑，但它不能与上海的整个天际线竞争。

jason2306

Wow this looks insane

哇哦，这看起来真不可思议。

PogOtter

Went there recently and it's an incredible massive city. Some of the best angles to see all those buildings in cyberpunky glory is the Bund.

最近去过一趟那里，这是一个令人难以置信的巨大的城市。在外滩有着看这些充满科技感的建筑物的最好的角度。

Protophobic

How expensive are hotels there? NYC prices?

那里的旅馆有多贵？和纽约的价格相比？

lllzh

It's surprisingly affordable and better conditions than NYC when I visited there two years ago. You can find 5-star hotels in downtown for around $100. (about $200 a night for area in the OP's photo)

当我两年前去那里的时候，那里的价格让人惊讶地负担得起，而且比纽约的条件更好。你可以用100美元在市中心找到一个5星级的酒店（在帖主拍照片的这个区域的价格在200美元一晚左右）。

judsonzhao

Absolutely no more.. especially since the new Disney opened, cheap fares are very rare.

Actually I doubt how lucky you must be back then, seems unreal to me even 2 years ago.

绝对不止...尤其是在新迪士尼乐园开张之后，便宜的很少。

事实上，我怀疑你当时一定很幸运，即使是在2年前对我来说都是难以想象的。

lllzh

We usually booked our rooms via Expedia. I just checked prices for 5-star hotels, still the same price.

Some examples from search list:

Shanghai Marriott Hotel City Centre for $117 a night

Even on the Bund, it's only $199 (Banyan Tree Shanghai On The Bund).

我们一般通过Expedia订房间。我只检查了五星级酒店的价格，价格还是一样的。

举一些搜查列表的例子：

上海市中心的上海万豪酒店，117美元一晚。

甚至在外滩，也只要199美元（上海外滩悦榕庄）。

camdoodlebop

how navigable is Shanghai for english-speakers?

上海对于说英语的人来说能畅玩吗？

bl1nds1ght

Went as a student with a 25 person group in 2011. We got rooms in what looked like a four or five star tower for probably that amount, too.

在2011年作为一名学生和一个25人的团队去过那里。我们的房间是4星或者5星，价格也是和你说的差不多。

AmumuIsOP

Best pic Iv'e seen of that city , I need to go

我看过的关于这个城市最好的照片，我一定要去一趟。

c0rrupt82

Do. It's awesome.

来吧，这里棒极了。

TTVRaptor

Man how do you even get a shot like that in a helicopter?

兄弟，你是怎么拍下这种看起来在直升机里才能拍到的照片的？

troflwaffle

You don't. Private helicopters are not allowed.

你不知道，私人直升机是禁止的。

sreache

This photo is probably taken by a drone. I knew some Chinese billionaires have private helicopter, but they're not often seen.

这张照片可能是无人机拍的。我知道一些中国亿万富翁有私人直升机，但他们不常被看到。

TTVRaptor

I didn't know drones could get that high or be that stable, that's pretty amazing.

我不知道无人机能飞得那么高或是那么稳定，真是太神奇了。

joe9439

China knows how to city. I'm going back to Shenzhen in a couple of weeks.

The US is good at rural areas. If a city is what you want the US isn't worth it. Just go to China.

Someday I do hope that the US catches up and decides to be modern.

中国人知道怎么建造城市。我会在几个星期后回到深圳。

美国擅长农村地区。如果你想生活在城市，那就不要留在美国。去中国吧。

有一天我真的希望美国能赶上（中国）并决定做一个现代人。

GoogleHolyLasagne

Europe is good at both!

欧洲两方面都擅长！

sociopathic_zebra

If a city is what you want the US isn't worth it.

What?

“如果你想生活在城市，那就不要留在美国。”

哈？

nervyzombie

What do you mean exactly? The architecture? Then, I'd agree that Chinese cities generally to for może futuristic look, also the developments there are simply newer. But when it comes to living standards, American cities still come on top, despite all their flaws. Of course China is catching up rapidly.

你是什么意思？建筑？好，我同意一般来说中国的城市普遍看起来更有未来感，而且那里的发展也更新。但就生活水平而言，美国城市仍然处于领先地位，尽管他们有缺点。当然，中国正在迅速追赶。

asthasr

I would say European urban living standards are pretty damn good. Especially in Belgium, the Netherlands, Germany, Switzerland and Austria.

我想说欧洲的城市生活水平相当不错。特别是在比利时、荷兰、德国、瑞士和奥地利。

joe9439

I’m a man of extremes. I want either a farm or nothing but 100 story buildings. Europe has too much 2 story quaintness in their cities for my tastes. Get out of here with your tiny buildings!

我是个极端的人。如果没有一个农场或者100层楼，我宁愿什么也不要。欧洲的城市里有太多2层的怪楼，一点儿也不符合我的口味。带着你的小房子离开这里吧。

AlienSauce

Coolest bottle opener ever.

有史以来最酷的开瓶器。

Jumala

I hope nobody has to sleep near that district.

我希望没有人睡在那个区。

c0rrupt82

There are light pollution laws that mandate the lights go off at 9.30pm now. Used to be 10pm

那里有光污染法，现在命令在9.30就要关灯。

以前是10点。

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