罗斯或已经打完了最后一场nba（罗斯巅峰赛季的表现令人震撼）

Devin Booker winning MVP this season would roughly be equivalent to what Derrick Rose did in 2010

如果德文-布克下赛季拿下常规赛MVP，那这基本上算是跟2010年（实为2011年）罗斯的成就差不多。

I can't believe it's been 8 years, and I'm sure plenty of people weren't watching then, so I thought I'd put into perspective truly how amazing Derrick was that year. Rose was 22 that year, and Booker is entering this season at 22. People (rightfully) gawk at how good Booker is for how young he is, and he is currently the age that Rose was his MVP season. Booker is entering his 4th season, while Derrick was only entering his 3rd.

光阴似箭，已经8年了啊。我很确信许多球迷当时还没看球呢，所以我可得好好介绍一下当年的罗斯是有多么了不起。那年罗斯22岁，布克下赛季也22了。考虑到他如此年轻，人们对布克现阶段取得的成就感到目瞪口呆（这也是理所应当的），但罗斯这个年纪都夺走MVP了。下赛季是布克的第四个赛季，而罗斯当时只是三年级。

Even if you argue that Rose didn't deserve his MVP, he still led the Bulls to the best record in the league despite the Big 3 in Miami forming that year. Rose got that team to the best record in the league with Luol Deng being his #2, and with two of his other biggest weapons, Carlos Boozer and Joakim Noah playing 59 and 48 games respectively. ALL OF THIS AT 22 YEARS OLD.

就算你想争辩说罗斯当年不配拿下MVP，他当年可是带着公牛拿下了全联盟常规赛最佳战绩，压过了刚刚组队的热火三巨头。罗斯带队拿下联盟第一的时候，队内二当家居然是洛尔-邓；其他两个最强帮手卡洛斯-布泽尔和乔金-诺阿，分别只打了59场和48场。罗 斯 22 岁 就 这 么 牛 逼 啊！！！

I was 16 at the time so the fact that he was 22 didn't hit me as hard as it does now that I'm 24. I honestly believe that if Devin Booker won MVP this year, which nearly everyone would agree is an EXTREME longshot, that would be the closest thing to what Rose did that I can think of.

当年我才16岁，所以那会儿还没觉得罗斯在22岁取得这个成绩有什么大惊小怪的。然而我现在24岁了，我才明白过来他有多牛逼。我真心觉得，如果德文-布克下赛季得MVP——虽然几乎所有人都觉得基本没啥戏——就是最接近那年罗斯的神迹了。

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[–]SunsNabz23 1189 指標 7小時前

"Rose got that team to the best record in the league with Luol Deng being his #2"

I know Deng is a meme now adays. But he was very good when he was with the Bulls lol.

“罗斯带队拿下联盟第一的时候，队内二当家居然是洛尔-邓”

我知道邓英乔现在就是个行走的梗了，但是公牛时期他还非常不错呢。

[–]NuggetsSkrong 379 指標 6小時前

I hate the disrespect that deep teams get. I'd rather have a solid 8-10 man rotation with 1 star that I can rely on over 2-3 stars with a trash bench.

怎么大家这么不待见阵容深厚的球队呢。我宁愿要一个值得信赖的球星 八到十人靠谱轮换，而不愿意要2-3个球星带着一群垃圾替补。

[–]TheOneManFromIran 65 指標 4小時前

Why. 3 stars and a trash bench beat the team with an MVP and a good 8 man rotation. The Heat beat the Bulls that year in 5. Come on man. Lol

为啥嘞？当年热火那3个球星可是带着一群垃圾替补打败了1个MVP加优秀八人轮换的公牛呢。还只用了五场啊。醒醒吧老哥。

[–]CelticsMidAugust 47 指標 5小時前

I’d much rather have 2-3 stars lol, all the top teams have stars, basketball can be a one or two man sport. As we see every year deep benches don’t matter for shit come playoffs

我也宁愿队里有2-3个球星，所有强队都有好几个球星呢；篮球可以打成独角戏也可以打成二人转。你瞧瞧，每年季后赛里，所谓阵容有深度的球队都打得跟狗屎似的。

[–]SpursQowegishomo 665 指標 5小時前

I'd rather have 5 all stars and alright bench. Maybe put in two MVPs as well, just to be sure.

马刺球迷：我就不一样了，我宁愿只要5个全明星、再加上一个一般般的替补阵容就行。为了保险起见，再加两个MVP吧。

[–]Pelicansspikonorx 126 指標 4小時前

Have 1 all star injured, to give the other teams false hope.

鹈鹕球迷：然后再把一位球星加入伤兵名单，给对手不该有的希望。

[–]LakersMrPeL 69 指標 3小時前

They have three MVP's. Two NBA MVP's and one MVP of our heart. I see you, Klay.

湖人球迷：他们可是有三个MVP呢。除了两个NBA常规赛MVP之外，还有一个是粉丝心中的MVP。我爱你，克莱！

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[–]Timberwolves_caramrod_ 179 指標 6小時前

I think you're really under valuing how good Deng and Noah were on that team. Not to mention how good and deep the Bulls bench was

楼主，我觉得你可是低估了当年邓和诺阿是有多棒。更不要说，他们的替补阵容深度可也不一般啊。

[–]Wizardssperjhgsoiejrg 61 指標 3小時前

People act like Rose dragged that team to the #1 seed by himself and completely ignore that the Bulls defense that year was a fucking nightmare.

对啊，人们总表现的好像是罗斯以一己之力带队到联盟第一了。别忘了，那年公牛的防守强到简直TM是对手的噩梦啊。

[–]Cavaliersvoyaging 45 指標 3小時前

Dude is massively exaggerating the "lack" of talent that team had. That team was deep as FUCK. Rose, Deng, Brewer, Noah, Gibson, Korver, Boozer, Asik, Watson, Thomas. All very good players. Rose was the best player for sure, but he did not carry that team whatsoever. Deng in particular was just as essential.

骑士球迷：楼主是严重低估那支公牛的天赋水平了。那只公牛阵容深的一B好吧：罗斯、邓、布鲁尔、诺阿、吉布森、科沃尔、布泽尔、阿西克、CJ-沃特森和科特-托马斯。他们都很棒啊！确实，罗斯是队里头号球星，但怎么也不能说是靠他一人拖着这支球队前进吧；尤其邓也是很重要的。

[–]marky229 226 指標 8小時前

I had no problem with Rose winning MVP. Weren’t the Bulls the #1 seed too? If the best player always won MVP then Lebron would win it every year. That’s not how it works though

我对罗斯拿MVP没什么意见。那支公牛难道不也是联盟第一嘛？假如说，天下第一人必得MVP的话，那岂不是年年都是勒布朗了。只不过评选MVP这事可不是单看个人实力这么简单。

[–]SunsSheriffbones 113 指標 8小時前*

Yes, he led the Bulls to the 1 seed the year the big3 formed in Miami.

是，热火三巨头组建那年，罗斯率领公牛获得联盟第一战绩。

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[–]KingsBIizard 1619 指標 9小時前

D Rose was so fucking special

玫瑰实在是太TM独一无二了！

[–]ThunderLeavingtheecstasy 525 指標 8小時前

It was too much talent for someone that young. Incredible,

年纪轻轻就身负奇才，了不起啊！

[–]GrizzliesRoastedRay 652 指標 7小時前

His body wasn't a proper vessel for that pure amount of basketball skill.

可惜，凡夫肉体不足以支撑他的天赋啊。

[–]MagicKodak333 169 指標 7小時前

Somebody is a my hero fan

这有个《我的英雄学院》的影迷哦。[译注1]

[译注1]：原文指罗斯如同《我的英雄学院》主角，继承了很强的能力，但是身体承受不住导致老是受伤。

[–]HawksMycoJoe 407 指標 7小時前

He wasn't just a loss for the Bulls, he was a loss for the NBA. Prime Derrick Rose was the best show in basketball at the time.

老鹰球迷：罗斯的陨落不仅对公牛来说是个损失，对NBA来说也是个悲剧啊。巅峰玫瑰在篮球史上都是一道风景啊！

[–][MIA] LeBron JamesGot_Too_Much_Dayum 326 指標 7小時前

We never even got to see his prime

热火球迷：不，我们其实没来得及看到他的巅峰。

[–][CHI] Derrick RoseOcho-Ocho-Ocho 117 指標 7小時前

Fucking hell what could've been.

公牛球迷：别提了，想想就TM心痛啊。

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[–]Mr_Unbiased 436 指標 9小時前

Suns would need to win 55 games for Booker to win MVP.

布克要想拿MVP的话，太阳至少得赢55场。

[–]76ersTO_show81 206 指標 8小時前

Not really. The Blazers were the 3rd seed with 49 wins last year. If Booker took that program to a 49 win team overnight, that's a 28 game improvement from last year, and would represent one of the best single season turnarounds in NBA history.

He would get SERIOUS MVP consideration.

也不是吧。上赛季，开拓者排在西部第三、赢了49场比赛。如果布克带领太阳下赛季破天荒地赢下49场—也就是说多赢了28场比赛—这可能是NBA历史上单赛季最佳进步之一。

那样的话，他绝对能被纳入到MVP的候选人行列内，并得到投票人认真的考虑。

[–]Sunsscooper1030 107 指標 8小時前

The first year that Nash won was basically entirely because of a 33-win turnaround for us. So by that logic Booker needs about 54 wins or better this year.

太阳球迷：纳什第一年拿MVP的时候，就是因为他带我们多赢了33场比赛。所以按照这个逻辑来说，布克需要赢54场或是更多呢。

[–]ClippersAnyGivenWednesday 105 指標 7小時前

Nash WAS the turnaround though. They added 33 wins when they added Nash, clearly showing his value. Booker was essentially the leader of the 21 win team. Completely different situation.

可是，当年纳什他自己就是太阳进步的原因啊！单单加入了一个纳什，你日就多赢了33场，这完完全全说明了他的价值所在。可是你看，上赛季21胜的时候，布克也是球队核心。所以，楼上的老哥可不能这么来比较他俩。

[–]BullsOnceAteABurgerAMA[S] 70 指標 9小時前

You're right, it's kind of unfair to Booker considering the Suns went 21-61 last year so it's basically impossible for them to get into the territory of having an MVP candidate. That being said, the year Rose won we improved from 41-41 to 62-20.

公牛球迷：说得对，鉴于他们上赛季21胜，让他们队瞬间进步到可以选出MVP的水平的话，对布克来说实在是太不公平了。不过话虽这么说，2011年罗斯可是带我们从41胜进步到62胜呢，。

[–]KyrieFanXV 91 指標 7小時前

Booker isn’t even half the player that mvp Rose was....

讲道理，布克甚至还不及MVP罗斯的一半……

[–]WarriorsJohnGoodmansPenis 164 指標 9小時前

Devin Booker winning the MVP over LeBron is about as plausible as Robert Williams waking up as a Nobel Prize worthy scientist.

下赛季德文-布克击败勒布朗获得MVP的可能性大概和罗伯特-威廉姆斯一觉醒来发现自己是一个诺奖级科学家差不多。[译注2]

[译注2][美国JRs之声]凯尔特人新秀睡过头不接球队电话，美国球迷：这可不是好兆头啊>>

【美国JRs之声】绿军新秀两天内丢两次钱包，美国球迷：他是因为太蠢才顺位下跌的？>>

[–]Statshelp_TA 289 指標 8小時前

Devin Booker winning the MVP over LeBron is about as plausible as Robert Williams waking up

You could have stopped there

“德文-布克击败勒布朗获得MVP的可信度大概和罗伯特-威廉姆斯一觉醒来差不多”

兄弟，说到这就可以了。

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[–]nakedsamurai 456 指標 9小時前

Many of the Founding Fathers were younger than 22 years old in 1776. Did I just blow your mind?

值得一提的是，在1776年（《独立宣言》），多数开国之父还不到22岁呢。是不是很惊讶？

[–]skrtskrt888 386 指標 8小時前*

Dang, Alexander Hamilton was 19 in 1776. Shits crazy.

Edit: Apparently he was born in either 1755 or 1757. So he was 19 or 21 when America gained independence. Still crazy.

握日，1776年亚历山大-汉密尔顿那会儿才TM19岁啊。

修正：显然他是出生在1755或者是1757年。所以美国独立的时候，他是19岁或者21岁。还是太TM疯狂了。

[–]Bullsmiss_arcadian 204 指標 7小時前

I had to look this up because it seemed ridiculous. And it is. Of the 7 men considered Founding Fathers, only Hamilton was younger than 22 years old. I even went through the list of the Signors of the Declaration, and none were younger than 22.

...Am I missing something? Is this a Sixers joke? I feel like I just wasted 10 minutes.

公牛球迷：层主说的这个看起来太荒唐了，所以我查了一下，还确实是有点问题。

七个公认的开国之父里只有汉密尔顿是小于22岁的。我甚至还查了所有《独立宣言》的签署者，没有谁还小于22岁。

……我是不是漏掉了什么？这是不是个调戏76人的玩笑？我怎么感觉我跟智障一样浪费了10分钟呢。

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